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Find More Posts by lowellben. Send a private message to timlloyd. Find More Posts by timlloyd. Quote: Originally Posted by timlloyd Regardless of the conclusion you come to, correct sinusoidal panning makes the most practical sense out of any pan law. Quote: Originally Posted by timlloyd Regardless of the conclusion you come to, correct sinusoidal panning makes the most practical sense out of any pan law, and therefore should be an option, which it is not yet.
Originally Posted by Wolffman If so, would this only be a problem with audio signals that move through the stereo field in real time automating pan etc , is this the difference? Originally Posted by Wolffman Question , if i got a test tone at say db and swept it throuhg the stereo field from left to right using reapers default pan laws, would i hear the difference in volume as it moved through the stereo field, and if so would the volume variation be reflected in the VU meters?
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Find More Posts by WolfJames. Quote: Originally Posted by WolfJames I know some people get tired of seeing some of these issues constantly rehashed, but this is a very informative and useful thread for myself, and probably others who are still near the beginner level when it comes to Reaper and DAW's in general.
Send a private message to Renan L. Find More Posts by Renan L. Send a private message to nfpotter. Find More Posts by nfpotter. And yes once a signal is panned and left alone you are going to reset its level no matter what so in the end it will end up at the right level anyway so yes you are right.
But if you are wanting to sweep eg automate a signal right from far left to far right in a mixer move then you might be in a position to want to change the pan laws.
So in this case you might want to try a Also if you do pan something to a position and leave it there eg centre for example and you set the level OK it is when you export a session to another DAW then this might be an issue.
You might have your pan law set to say - 3db and in the centre you will fine tune your level. But in my DAW my pan law might be set for -6 dB instead. So if I set that sound in the centre and set its fader correctly same as yours then it might still sound a little soft because my pan law is not the same as yours. So if you are planning to give files to someone else to set up in their DAW and you are instructing where the panning and fader level are, you might want to include what pan law you were using so the other person will get the correct level especially in the centre by setting their pan laws to agree with yours.
Hope that helps. Thanks Jeff, I do understand what pan laws are and what they do, I just didn't understand how they related to my situation. I record, mix, and "master" my own tracks, which I bounce to a stereo mix. So, if I'm understanding correctly You're right, Rod. I would like to use -6dB because it mantains the Mono compatibility the best, but Reaper reduces the gain every time the signal passes through another bus, so the more busses, the lower the volume the signal ends up having.
If I use the Gain Compensation, the opposite happens: The more busses, the louder the signal becomes. Now that I think about it, Reaper also allows to change the Pan Law of each track individually, maybe I should set the project at 0dB, while the individual source tracks at -6dB.
And your explanation is very clear and thorough. Thank you, Peter. We all love a sexy drum mix! Your email address will not be published. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Notify me of new posts by email. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Learn how your comment data is processed. Skip to primary navigation Skip to main content Skip to primary sidebar Have you ever adjusted the pan position of elements in your mix in the later stages of the mixing process?
If you want to change the Pan-Laws in Ableton, there's a way to do it with racked utility devices. Search for Wyatt Agard on Ableton's site, the racks are free for download.
Like x 1 List. Johnny Blaze , Nov 22, Agree x 1 Interesting x 1 Useful x 1 List. SineWave , Nov 22, Joined: Jul 19, Messages: Likes Received: Lambchop , Nov 22, DAWs are different from one another similar to how two plugins are different from one another. They are different products with their own mathematical flaws and benefits that effect their ability to read and handle digital mediums.
EQ plugins are loaded on a channel in the DAW. They can all be set flat but they differ in variables such as latency, resource handling, how prone they are to aliasing, etc.
This can have a collective impact on things like dynamic perception, color, and transparency. Each interacts with the OS differently.. The traces of different math are evident.
They are prone to drawing different latency figures from the same audio device. On to the computer they are prone to interact with cpu, graphics, and ram differently. Again, can have a collective impact on dynamic perception, color, and transparency. With the rate of human error and fix after fix, the notion the math is the same across DAWs given all they have to interact with before an end result is reached is insane.
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